WEX Inc. (WEX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 15, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Financials Financial Services conference_presentation 38 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#1

Thanks, everyone, for joining the webcast. I'm Ashish Sabadra, senior analyst at DB, covering business and information services companies. We are excited to host Roberto, CFO of WEX at the conference. On the line, we also have Steve Elder, Head of IR. Roberto and Steve, thanks for giving us this opportunity.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#2

We would like to kick off the conversation with a discussion of the COVID recovery. Obviously, we saw some significant improvement in July both in terms of fuel gallons as well as the corporate payment volume. Can you just talk about the recent trends? What have we seen there? Do we continue to see improvement on those fronts?

Roberto Simon

executive
#3

Absolutely. Good afternoon and thank you for having us today. As you heard from our Q2 earnings call, the July volume trends for both fleet and travel and corporate payments climbed steadily now compared to March 2020, in April, in May and June and in July. But we are still down year-over-year due to the pandemic. This steady increase in both of these segments continued through the third quarter-to-date as well, but at a slower rate and at a different pace from the different segments. So I will give you some color there. And as you can imagine, as a company, we continue to work to mitigate some of the macro headwinds caused by COVID. Specifically, if I give you some color in August -- for August, our fleet gallon volumes are right -- are almost flat year-over-year, which is positive and good size from a stabilization point of view. In the over-the-road trucking part of our business, we are seeing strength and we are up in the range of 7% to 8% in August when compared to last year. And we have seen particularly strength in the packaged-goods-related customers. So that's not a surprise, but that's something to highlight. At the same time, if we think about our local fleet volumes, so what we call the North American Fleet business, both in the U.S. and internationally, we continue to be down compared to prior year. And we are just about flat compared to what we were seeing in the month of July. If I switch now to travel and corporate spend volumes, following the July trends, there's still double-digit improvement in the payables, and we continue to be depressed in the travel side. And finally, to give you some color, which is also positive news on the health side. On the U.S. Health, the strong performance in the first half of the year has continued into the third quarter. We have added new accounts at a rate of 13% to 15% monthly increase year-over-year. And the volume expense in this part of the segment have come back as expected to 2019 levels. If you remember earlier, in April and May, we were down more than 40%; but the last few weeks, the numbers have come close to last year levels.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#4

Those are very encouraging statistics. Good to see the health volume have already rebounded back. That's very positive and the strength that we continue to see in the monthly increase. Maybe if it helps, we can start off with the Health segment itself. Health, we saw some pretty strong growth there even with the COBRA business. You had mentioned 15% growth in the SaaS accounts in the second quarter driven by 33% growth in COBRA. Can you just talk about what have you seen in terms of the SaaS account? You talked about 13% to 15% growth. How do we think about that trend going forward?

Roberto Simon

executive
#5

Of course. So we have a lot of success in the past 5, 6 years with our U.S. Health Care business with the growth primarily in the HSA market. The trend of companies' transition in more and more their employees into high-deductible plans, health plans, obviously, still is an impact. And obviously, this allows employees to have HSAs, and that has continued. It is an easy way for companies to control health care costs, which now continue to go up. And we have seen lately also a strong demand for our COBRA product, particularly through the pandemic, as you mentioned.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#6

Yes. Those are very encouraging trends. And then WEX currently serves 8 out of the top 20 HSA providers. Is there opportunity to add new partners? How are your conversations with other HSA providers?

Roberto Simon

executive
#7

Well, I can tell you that what we're seeing long term, pre-pandemic trends are still, as I said, in place, which means that we expect more employers to offer high-deductible plans for those to become more popular with employees. Obviously, that will lead to more HSA accounts, which have been fueling most of the growth in the segment for us in the past several years. For the time being, we do not see the pandemic changing any of those dynamics. Obviously, in the short term, we have seen the volumes slow down or being depressed, but they have come back quickly. We may see some of the partners' challenges in the short term, but the dynamics are still clearly in place. And in fact, the pandemic may accelerate the shift to high-deductible plans as employer try to control costs even more firmly than before. So we have consistently said that we expect the long-term growth targets of this part of the business to be in the mid to high teens, and we still believe that coming out of the pandemic. And there could be a period of some softness, as I've said, because of the higher unemployment, but nothing that we would consider as roadblock to the long-term growth rate.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#8

Yes. Yes. Yes. Your -- as you said, the secular trends are clearly in your favor and the market leadership position is definitely helping drive some pretty solid growth there. Shifting to the corporate and travel payments business. Obviously, corporate payment continues to be pretty strong and then travel was depressed. I was just wondering if you can provide any color on the growth rate in August on how corporate payment was trending. I think it was up 6% in July. Any color on the August trends?

Roberto Simon

executive
#9

Yes. Let me give you some -- where we are on corporate payments. And if you want, we can also talk later about travel. So as we have been saying now for some time now, we have -- the first thing is the go-to-market strategy on the corporate payments product side. We go direct with our own salespeople and then indirectly through the partner channel. Both have successful-driven volumes in the first half of the year, though on the direct customer side, the spending volumes have declined slightly as businesses have been spending less money due to the pandemic. However, on the partner channel side, we continue to grow rapidly, and we have gotten a nice contribution from a new health care customer that we call out last year as a new signing. The one thing important here to take into consideration is the mix shift towards more channel partner volumes, which is causing the interchange rate to increase. And you saw that especially in the Q2 volumes for 2 reasons: number one, because we get higher interchange rate on the -- from the partner channel versus the direct sales model; and more importantly, also because in the second quarter, volumes overall in the segment were 2/3 in corporate payments and 1/3 on the travel side. One thing also that I think it's important that we mention while we are talking about these volumes that continue to be positive in the month of August as well in corporate payments is the fact that our interchange rate is going to be very volatile. I mean if you saw in Q1 versus Q2, there was a significant change on the rate. And this will continue in the next quarters to come as there are volume shift between corporate payments and travel and we think corporate payments, depending if the volume growth comes from the partner channel or from the direct sales model. Specifically on the travel side, if you recall, we talked about a new scheme fee agreement that we signed in April, which is going to bring significant benefits going forward. But in the particular second quarter, we got a benefit that was supposed to -- it came from the Q1 volumes, but because the contract was closed in April, we record the benefit in Q2. So obviously, this is not going to record going forward. And on the travel-related customers, obviously, they have much lower interchange than the corporate payments' customer-related. So if we talk about what we are seeing in the marketplace, I mean the pipeline, obviously, we talk about it, will remain strong. And we are not -- we are seeing that also in the August numbers, as I said. So July was on the 6%. And we -- in the corporate payments, we continue to be there now.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#10

That's great. And then maybe just if you can talk a bit more about the corporate payment business. As you talked about a new health care win there on the partner side, you also have some really key marquee partners such as Divvy. Can you talk about just the -- and also, you mentioned on the call, the FIS win was mentioned. Can you just talk about the pipeline for corporate payment and then the time line for some of these implementations, the new wins that you've announced?

Roberto Simon

executive
#11

Yes. Obviously, as we have said, Melissa talked about it. I mean the pipeline is in very good shape, and we have seen a lot of movement in the past 3, 4 months. After the adjustment of the shock in March and April, really, the pipeline has increased significantly. What I would say to you is the time line around implementation. So from the moment you have a pipeline and from the time you sign an implementation, it depends on the size and the complexity of the customer. So when we establish a direct interest rate, there are APIs that the customer programs into. So it will depend on how quickly they can turn that on and how complex the business is. At worse, it probably can take a few months. But in many instances, that's done much faster than that.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#12

Yes. That's good. That's good. Good to hear the strength in the pipeline. And then I was just wondering if you can provide any more color on the pipeline. What kind of opportunities do you continue to see? Are there more vertical solutions? Or is it more of the partners? Any color that you can provide.

Roberto Simon

executive
#13

Well, as I said, I mean we have seen it in all the parts of the businesses. I think what is also important that we have not talked about is the -- our FI part of the corporate payments. We have talked about the channel partner in this space for a long time and that there are a lot of companies, both large and some others that are small. But on the FI specifically, it is made of banks making a build or a buy decision on issuing virtual cards. And we can provide one of the best in the market solution, and they can choose to develop one internally, if they want to. But since we have been building an Asian platform that requires significant investment in technology, we are seeing large entities like we talk about American Express or U.S. Bank and other many regional banks like PNC, KeyBank and Regions increasingly choosing the WEX platform. So we benefit obviously from their virtual card growth as well. So that part of the business, it's also in a good position, and we are benefiting from their growth as well.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#14

That's great. That's really good. Very helpful color. Roberto, if we can just quickly talk about the travel. It was down 81% I think in July. What trends have you seen lately in August? And if you can also talk about your exposure. I believe your exposure is more for hotel versus airlines and leisure versus corporate. So any color that you can provide also on that front?

Roberto Simon

executive
#15

Yes. Let's start with travel. So travel volumes continues to be depressed through the third quarter-to-date. And although they have improved from April, as you said, we went in July, call it, down 81%. We are better in August, around 70% markdown. But obviously, we are seeing the recovery being slow. And what is even more challenging is the expectation, what we should be expecting as we move forward. It's really difficult to predict the next few months. It's true that we have seen a steady improvement week after week. But as you know, we were on 90% down in Q2 at some point. July was 81%. We are on the 70s down in August. But what is going to be coming from here, that's the uncertainty. And what we know is the stabilization and the normalization will happen, but it will take some time. And then on how we -- you asked me how we have been managing the risk, whether it is to a travel company or a fleet, either if it's a big customer or a small customer, we manage our line of credit extensions in the same way, and we keep a very close eye on the trends and the performance, and we monitor all the accounts regularly. We use a bunch of external data sources like DMP or Experian as well as our internal collection experience to develop an overall risk profile for each of our customers that we update regularly. And if you think about what we have done since the pandemic started, and I said that in Q1 and then in Q2. I mean I recall we had up to $500 million of receivables just before the pandemic in the travel-related customer segment. And we are now down to probably $40 million, $50 million. And in Q2, we had some credit losses that were small compared to Q1. For now, we have been able to navigate really well the exposure, and we have been working at the same time with the customers. So we have to feel well on where we are from a risk point of view with -- on the cost -- on the travel customer -- on the travel customers.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#16

That's very helpful color. So good to see that you've already lowered your exposure and monitoring it actively plus, as you also mentioned, the credit losses have been very manageable, so pretty low-risk there. I was just wondering if you could go deeper on to the travel exposure. Where are you more exposed, hotels versus airlines and then leisure versus corporate? And how does that help in a recovery scenario? Are you better positioned on the recovery side as well that some of the hotel and leisure travel starts coming back faster?

Roberto Simon

executive
#17

Well, as I said, the -- we expect the stabilization and normalization. What we don't know, and I don't think anybody knows, is what to expect. We are seeing -- that's why keeping the daily, weekly volume trends, talking with our customers to see the reservations that they get, when are they being reserved for, do they have cancellations. So all of those things are critical for our customers and for us, obviously. But whoever you ask today, nobody knows what the expectation is for the next few weeks or few months, obviously.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#18

Yes. Yes.

Steven Elder

executive
#19

And this is Steve. What I'd add is if you look at our travel book of business, it's nearly all hotel rooms and it's nearly all leisure travel. So there's not really any airline travel in there. There's not a lot of business travel in there. So in terms of like what people are expecting for recovery on whatever that time line is, we're probably about as well positioned as we can be because most people believe that hotels will come back before airlines, leisure before business. So it's about as good as it can be, but it's still not -- it's a tough market to be in right now.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#20

Yes. Absolutely. But just having more of the hotel and leisure exposure, I think that just positions you pretty well for the recovery. That's very helpful color. Roberto, if you can just talk quickly about eNett. Can you just remind us when the trial is supposed to begin? And what are the next steps there?

Roberto Simon

executive
#21

Of course. So the trial is set for the week of September 21, and we expect the judge to reach a decision sometime in early October. And I think this is all about we can say at this point. We expect the judge to issue a ruling. We will provide updates on the status of the litigation as they become available. That's all I can say at this point.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#22

Yes. That's completely understandable. So that's again very helpful color. If you can move on to the fleet payments, fleet section, looks like pretty good local fleet continues to improve, as you mentioned. I was just wondering what have you seen in states -- if there are states where they may have seen resurgence in virus, do you continue to see pretty -- what are the trends that you've seen either from a verticals perspective or geography perspective?

Roberto Simon

executive
#23

Yes. Let me give you some detailed color on the recovery. So as I said, the improvements in the July trend continued through August with August volumes flat versus last year and as I said, driven by strength in the OTR business. In July, specifically in July, we did see a converging state activity despite the resurgence of the virus in some states. What we have seen, though, in the month of August, we did see a very slight divergence in volume and activity between the states that were more heavily impacted by the virus and the ones that were not. So to give you some idea, California, Florida and New York volumes are all in line with the national average. And then if you look, for example, Arizona, Massachusetts are slightly better while Texas came in just below the average. So that's to give you, on the bigger state, some color on what we are seeing overall.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#24

That's very helpful color. And then when you think about end markets or verticals, are there -- you talked about packaged goods' customers showing a lot of strength. Are there other areas of strength? And are the weakness, usual, the oil and gas and those kinds of verticals? So any color on the vertical front?

Roberto Simon

executive
#25

Yes. We haven't seen any different on the verticals. Packaged goods continue to be strong. And then obviously, the oil and gas industry is the one that has been more depressed. I don't know, Steve, if you have any other data from the last 2, 3, 4 weeks, but the trends have continued in the same way.

Steven Elder

executive
#26

Yes. It's a lot of stuff that you'd kind of expect, right? I mean, for example, the construction companies have held in decently well, again, given the backdrop. We had some weakness in like -- more like a white-collar sales fleet, that pharmaceutical sales rep who drives around to doctors' offices. That's not happening either, right? So it's all stuff that just kind of makes sense given the backdrop, and our trends kind of line up pretty closely with what you'd expect, I'd say.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#27

That's very helpful color, Steve. And then as you think about the OTR business, obviously, good to see that strong volume trend continue in the 7% to 8% growth. On the last call, Melissa also highlighted the J.B. Hunt contract. I was just wondering if you can talk about that particular business. Is that a new win, a competitive win? And then just what's driving such a strong rebound in the OTR business?

Roberto Simon

executive
#28

Yes. Let's start with J.B. Hunt, and then I can give you some more color on the OTR. So obviously, J.B. Hunt was a new competitive win in the market and one we are very proud of, especially when it happened and how it happened. They are one of the largest heavy truck fleets in the country, so it's a pretty nice win for us. We have not seen any real impact on the volumes yet. Obviously, because as I was talking before on the corporate payment from signing to implementation, there's always some lag. But which -- the good thing is the fact that we have not had volumes makes the growth in the month of July and August without them look even better. But we expect them to be very quickly on board and get the benefits going forward from them. If we talk about the overall -- the OTR portfolio, after the, call it, late February, early March where there were some weeks that things were changing everywhere, where we saw a dip on the volumes, the volumes have come really very strong. And this part of the business has proven to be very resilient through this pandemic like also it was back in other recessions. So as I said, from February, March where there was -- we were down. But from the month of April, volumes are coming up steadily and materially, getting the goods where they need to be, the essential and critical need for our economy and especially in these times of uncertainty. So in the month of August, in particular, we continue to be up on the range of 7%, which is just about the same growth rate as we had pre-pandemic and probably slightly better than that. So that clearly, obviously, tells us that this OTR business is -- first, it's important to us, but at the same time, we are performing better than the North American fleet and the international businesses, as I said before. This will bring, obviously, as we think in the next quarters and everything depending on what happen with the international businesses and the North American fleet. Obviously, there's a mix also here in the volume gallons where we should expect a reduction on the overall net interchange rate going forward compared to what we had in Q2. Obviously, the OTR market has lower interchange rates than the North American fleet. And obviously, they generate less late fees. But overall, from a volume point of view, this business is clearly -- has proven, as I said, to be resilient, and it's growing very nicely at 7%.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#29

That's -- yes. Roberto, absolutely. The resiliency in the business definitely has taken a lot of -- everyone by surprise. Just a quick clarification on the net interchange rate and maybe the late fee component. Is there a way to understand? And also the OTR model sometimes is different, right? It's more transaction-based revenue model.

Roberto Simon

executive
#30

Exactly. It's more transaction-based, yes.

Steven Elder

executive
#31

Yes.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#32

Yes. So is there a way for us to quantify like how much -- like the difference. Is there a way to think about the difference? Or...

Roberto Simon

executive
#33

I mean, obviously, I cannot talk about what the difference is going to be versus the Q2 or -- but obviously, at this -- the difference between the North American business and the OTR business, it varies now with fuel prices. But I would say to you, they are probably on between 15 and 25 basis points, depending on where fuel prices are. So obviously, if one is growing 7%, 8% and the other is down the equivalent 7%, 8%, 9%, obviously, there's going to be a mix change on the interchange rate point of view. And the equivalent will happen also with the late fees. Obviously, we make much more money on the small fleets of the North American fleet than on the OTR part of the market. But obviously, at the same time, the larger the customers are, we should see the correlation with credit losses. So...

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#34

Yes. That's a great segue to two things. One is, obviously, we want to talk about credit losses. Credit losses have been very manageable, only a modest increase. Receivable aging has been good. I was wondering if you could just provide any more color on that front. How -- what have you seen through the third quarter?

Roberto Simon

executive
#35

Yes. Yes. Well, you just said it. Given the disruption that we have had in the economy, we have to be very happy and proud where credit losses have been so far this year, that we have managed extremely well the travel-related customers, as I said before, and we feel really good where we are now so far with fleet. I mean I'm talking now memory, but we have gone from over $3 billion on receivables to below or to around $2 billion now and we barely have seen impact on our credit losses. I also can share that July and August were very good months, much better than what we expected. And that the majority of our customers have been paying their bills on time, which is great news. So that's something that we have been monitoring every day. And so far, in the quarter, July and August, credit losses have been really good.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#36

That's great.

Roberto Simon

executive
#37

So that's a great position to be in. And I think it's more important to indicate that how healthy the portfolio is and all the work that we have been doing in the -- with the credit exposure, managing with the customers, working with them, as I said, also on the travel side. Now what to expect going forward is like the volumes in travel, it's hard to predict, especially once the government supports end not only in the states, but also in the other markets where we are operating. So we are prioritizing maintaining low credit losses, which may impact the late fee revenue in the short term. But I think from a risk profile point of view, it's critical that credit losses is still low, and July and August is -- I mean the second quarter was a good reflection, but even more July and August. So we feel good where we are. And I think most companies that have similar portfolios have also reported similar good results so far as the ones I am describing in terms of trends.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#38

Yes. No. Those are very encouraging trends, absolutely. And maybe just a quick question on the international front. Again, we've seen improvement there. Those are challenged a bit more than North America, but definitely improved quite a bit. Any trends that you've seen in the international market?

Roberto Simon

executive
#39

Yes. I can give you some quick color. First, remember that our international fleet volumes are around 10% to 15% of the total segment volumes. And that they continue -- we continue to be more challenged than in the U.S. Overall, the volumes are down, depending on the country, between 10% and 20% year-over-year in the month of August. As in some cases, there has been some shutdowns and then reinstated in some countries like, for example, I have in mind, in Australia, we were seeing a nice recovery where we were between 5% and 10%, then there was a lockdown in Melbourne. And so we fell down another 5 to 10 points. So nevertheless, this is still quite a bit from -- it's quite -- it's much better, this 10% to 20%, versus where we were in Q2 at 50% decline, especially in the month of late March, early April. But again, it's a small part of our business, this 10% to 15% volumes.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#40

That's true. Maybe just a quick question on cost takeout. So we saw some significant expense reduction sequentially in fleet cards as well as travel and corporate solutions, but the margins came in modestly below expectations. So how should we think about the cost-saving measures and margin expectations going forward as volumes start to recover?

Roberto Simon

executive
#41

Let's start with the cost containment. You recall, we announced this action in introducing Q1, that continued into Q2 and it still remain in place. This included cut in discretionary spending, eliminating most of the new hiring across the organization as well as voluntary reduction in executive and Board compensation while we were trying to protect at the same time the most important investments in each of the businesses, specifically on the health side where we have continued to invest as we were planning when we gave guidance earlier in the year. I would say to you that if I look where we are today, we have executed successfully on each of all -- of those activities. And to remind you, if you recall, the target was $60 million to $65 million in savings for the year versus our original, call it, guidance for margin and another $20 million reduction in CapEx. But as you know, most of our CapEx is also labor intense. So when you put the 2 things together, it's $80 million to $85 million of cash out the door that we have been managing versus the original guidance that we had out there. Let's talk quickly on the segments because -- to get clarity on the margins, and I hope that people appreciate the effort that the company has been doing. If you think about -- let's just start with fleet, which is the biggest segment. The margins held quite well in the second quarter and what we are seeing also in Q3 when you exclude the impact from fuel prices. I mean if you recall, in Q2, fuel prices impact approximately $29 million to $30 million in revenue with a very significant impact to margin because the fall-through is very material. But when you exclude that, the margins were mostly in line with Q2 2019. So obviously, when we manage, we say, well, fuel prices, yes, they are out of our control, but we have been able -- despite the volume deterioration in Q2, we were able to maintain very close margins when excluding fuel price fluctuations. And if we look forward, as you look into Q3 and as we are projecting over the next couple of quarters, excluding that lower fuel prices that, for now, they continue to be out there, we want to make sure that when you exclude that difference, we are now within the numbers we had in 2019. Moving to travel and corporate solutions. Obviously, many -- I think many people underestimated the amount of fixed costs that we have in the segment and how much more we have taken out now in the past 3 to 5 years. And I can tell you that we bought AOC back in '17, that was a vendor that was -- we were having cost increases with them. Well, we bought it. But -- so we moved it to a fixed cost because obviously we are running the platforms internally. But we also extracted a good chunk of synergies. We also have moved some of our volume to an internal platform from another provider. We have renegotiated a couple of times our scheme fees. So all of this has given us a lot of margin improvement. But obviously, at the same time, has positioned us into a more fixed cost segment. And obviously, when things are going well and volumes are going up, this is great because most of the incremental volume drops to the bottom line and vice versa. So what we should expect is as the volume recovers, and we are seeing this in the July and August even if they are still much lower than last year, but as we continue to recover, especially the travel volumes, we should see an improvement on the margin. And if we would just quickly to finalize on the margins on the health side, I keep reminding everybody and myself, when we bought the Evolution1 back in 2013 or '14. Steve, was it '14?

Steven Elder

executive
#42

'14.

Roberto Simon

executive
#43

Yes. '14, I mean it was -- the margins were below 20% adjusted operating income. And we are now moving on a -- if you look on what was our plan for this year was on the 28%, and we keep every year slowly, continue to grow from the mid to high teens. And if we look on the past, we have been growing in the 20% and at the same time, steadily improving the margins every year. So nothing has changed there and we continue marching towards those goals that we have in mind.

Ashish Sabadra

analyst
#44

That's extremely helpful color, Roberto. Thanks once again both to Roberto and Steve for giving us this opportunity. Thank you very much.

Roberto Simon

executive
#45

Of course. You're welcome.

Steven Elder

executive
#46

Thanks, Ashish. Bye-bye.

Roberto Simon

executive
#47

Bye. Bye-bye.

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