Rambus Inc. (RMBS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 31, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Sidney Ho
analystGood morning, and good afternoon, everyone. I am Sidney Ho. I cover semiconductor, semi-cap equipment and IT hardware at Deutsche Bank. The next company we have is Rambus. So Rambus is a leading intellectual property licensing company in the semiconductor market. In recent years, they have also expanded into memory chipset product market through an acquisition, targeting service and data centers. Today, we're very excited to have Rambus newly appointed CFO, Desmond Lynch with us. Welcome, Des.
Desmond Lynch
executiveThank you, Sidney.
Sidney Ho
analystBefore we get into Q&A, Des, I know, you have a few slides you want to go through. Why don't I hand it over to you. Go ahead.
Desmond Lynch
executiveThat's great. Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Sidney, for hosting us here today. It's a great pleasure for us to be here at the conference. Before we begin on the short presentation, I would like to remind everyone on the safe harbor forward-looking statements. And I would encourage everyone to read the documents on file with the SEC, these contain a lot greater information on the company than I can cover in the short presentation today. Okay. Starting off with Rambus at a glance. Rambus has been a pioneer within the semiconductor industry for the last 30-plus years. The company was founded based upon foundational IP associated with memory interfaces, which can be found in many of today's modern computer systems. The company is headquartered in San Jose, California, and we have over 750 employees worldwide. The bedrock of the company has been our patent licensing business. This has provided long-term stable and predictable cash generation for the company. Last year, our cash from operations was $209 million, and this strong cash generation has enabled us to invest both organically and inorganically in our product programs. Our product revenue from chip and silicon IP last year is mainly focused around the data center and edge, with over 75% of our revenue coming from these end markets. This next slide is a great representation of how we go to market with our solutions as a company. Internally, we refer to our business as having 3 pillars: our patent business, our silicon IP business and our chip business. On the patent side, this is a foundational IP associated with memory interfaces. There is no physical transfer of IP here as companies pay us to license our technology. In total, we view this as a $200 million to $220 million billings opportunity for the company. So using the midpoint of the range of $210 million, $150 million of this comes from the top 3 DRAM companies, and the remaining $60 million comes from a variety of memory, SoC and FPGA companies. These have been long-term stable, predictable arrangements for the company. Moving on to our silicon IP business. These solutions are mainly associated with high-speed memory interfaces, controllers and security IP. There is a physical transfer of IP on this business as companies take our IP and integrate it into a larger ASIC or SoC solution. During the last earnings call, we were delighted to announce that this is $120 million to $130 million run rate business, which is up 20% to 30% versus the prior year. In this business, we have a much more diverse range of customers, which range from large well-known semiconductor companies to small and medium start-up companies. On to our chip business. This is where we sell memory interface chips to the DRAM companies who integrate this into the DIMM modules. The growth in this business has been phenomenal. In 2018, we had revenue of $38 million, and last year, 2021, with revenue of $144 million. And the growth has continued into fiscal year '22 with our first half '22 revenue being up over 60% versus the first half of '21. With the DDR5 server platform expected to ramp later this year and continue into 2023, we remain excited about the growth opportunities of this business going forward. On to the next slide. This shows the new memory architectures, and really driven by the megatrends of high-performance compute AI and ML, the data center architecture continues to evolve, which offers an amplified opportunity for Rambus. The transition to DDR5 is happening just now is the desire for higher memory bandwidth capacity continues to grow, and we have a great opportunity to build on the success of DDR4. With the addition of the coherent serial links, architectures like CXL offers further growth opportunities for Rambus in the midterm. Last year, we were delighted to announce our CXL product initiative, which intends to have products available to market in late 2023, start of 2024 with the launch of CXL 2.0. In the longer term, rack-level disaggregation opportunities offers further growth and expansion for Rambus. With the new memory architectures, the performance and the speed of the interface will continue to play a critical role in all of these architectures, and Rambus is well positioned in this market. Let's look at our financial highlights. The growth in the product revenue has been great, as our chip and silicon IP revenue last year with $192 million, which was up $60 million versus 2019. In addition to the top line growth, we have done a great job in managing the middle part of the P&L. Through disciplined operational focus and execution, we have reduced our operating expenses while funding the high-growth opportunities ahead of us. With the combination of higher product revenue and more operating expenses, this has led to superior cash generation. In 2021, our cash from operations was $209 million, which yielded $1.66 in free cash flow per share. And you can see this being reflected in our ending cash balances. We've had a consistent approach to capital allocation across the years. And I think 2021 was a great example of our capital allocation strategy in full force. Organically, we launched our CXL initiative and we invested in product programs. Inorganically, we completed 2 strategic M&A acquisitions to support our silicon IP business. And we returned $100 million of free cash flow to our shareholders in the form of an ASR, which equated to 55% of our free cash flow. Let me end with Rambus investment summary. The backbone of the company has been a patent licensing business, and this has enabled us to make investments in both our chip and silicon IP businesses. We've really focused the company around the high-growth areas of the data center, and through operational discipline, execution and focus, we have delivered strong financial results, which has yielded strong cash generation. We have a consistent policy also of returning cash to our shareholders. I think this takes us through the formal part of the presentation, Sidney. I'll now hand it over to you.
Sidney Ho
analystGreat. Thank you for the presentation, very informative. Maybe I'll just start kicking off with some of the near-term questions. Most people here do care about the demand side of things. I think we are kind of all aware that the data points around inventory corrections in the consumer electronics market, like PCs and smartphones, but your focus, to your point in the slide, is that you are most in the server and data center market. Based on your conversations with customers, how do you see the demand trends in the second half of the year and even do you have visibility on this in next year? And can you comment separately on cloud spending versus enterprise spending?
Desmond Lynch
executiveGood question, Sidney. And really, our demand for our memory interface chips remain strong. We delivered quarterly product revenue in the first half, which was record revenue for us by working closely with both our customers and/or suppliers. Our demand in the first half of the year was significantly above what we could deliver from a supply adjusted revenue from there. We continue to work with our customers, we continue to receive new orders and we've had no cancellations of orders from customers. But overall, our demand remains strong. I think the second part of your question relates to the visibility into the cloud versus enterprise. Our visibility in this area is limited. But in aggregate, I would say that our demand for the data center and memory interface chips remains strong.
Sidney Ho
analystThere are some comments from earlier speakers that between -- even within cloud, there is a bifurcation of U.S. cloud versus the non-U.S. cloud [ meaning ] Chinese cloud. Are you seeing any certain -- any main difference between the 2 categories?
Desmond Lynch
executiveNot really. We continue to work with all the sort of cloud providers, and we continue to see strong demand, irrespective of where these cloud providers are based just there.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Got it. Now maybe switching to the product side of things. Your product business has been tracking pretty well. I think it was up 40% year-over-year, and that's despite some delays that we're seeing in new server platforms, while you also have going through the supply constraints as well. So can you help us decouple the various dynamics within this bucket of revenue, DDR4, DDR5? And how sustainable do you believe easing dynamics are given the delays in key -- like I said, in the service platforms, as well as the certain macro hubs into the first half 2023?
Desmond Lynch
executiveGreat question, Sidney. We've been delighted with our product revenue growth. In 2021, it was $144 million. And I believe this year, you have this modeled around $209 million. So that's up 45% year-over-year in a supply-constrained environment. In DDR4, last year, our overall share was just over 20%, which was up from almost 0%. We started in 2018 with $38 million of revenue, which equated to 0. So with each generation of DDR4, we've been able to grow our qualification footprint, grow our revenue and increase market share by delivering quality reliable products to the market there. In DDR5, we have invested early into the technology here. And our qualification footprint in DDR5 is stronger than any generation in DDR4. The transition to DDR5 will happen. I think we've seen some announcements that will be later this year for production and sort of rollout with a ramp into 2023. From a Rambus perspective, we do expect a crossover, meaning DDR5 will be the predominant unit shipment in first half of 2024. So this is a nice inflection growth opportunity for us as a company. I think we've done a great job overall on the chip side by excellent execution and continuing to grow, and we remain excited about the growth opportunities ahead.
Sidney Ho
analystGot it. So just to follow up on that. You said DDR4, you're in the 20% of kind of market share. I know it's been growing for every generation even within DDR4. But where do you think your DDR5, based on design wins, what kind of market share are you getting to?
Desmond Lynch
executiveOur qualification footprint is strong. And if you went back to earlier generations such as DDR3, DDR4, there was a leader in the market who probably got 40%, 50% sort of market share. So that is the goal for the sort of team of making sure that we maintain our leadership position within DDR5 and get to that sort of market share. Our qualification footprint remains strong as well.
Sidney Ho
analystGot it. Which leads me to the next kind of the follow-up question on DDR5. You talked about the timing, the crossover in the first half of next year. In the short term, you have been clear about this lumpiness that's tied to the adoption of DDR5. Can you help us understand this lumpiness? At what point does this lumpiness go away?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes, it's a great question, Sidney. The transition to DDR5 will happen. It certainly has pushed a little bit to the right. And as I commented on the crossover point being sort of first half of '24, we've been in earnings call sort of talking to investors about the lumpiness of DDR5 demand given the sort of delay in the rollout, as well as the combination of the supply challenges that we've been facing. I think we've done a great job of managing that by producing quarterly record revenue. I think as we get into sort of next year, and we'll watch carefully the ramp of DDR5. But that's the sort of time frame, maybe this lumpiness of sort of demand once the server platform has went into full production ramp, that should go away.
Sidney Ho
analystSo just to be clear, I might have misspoke, so the crossover is first half of '24 not '23?
Desmond Lynch
executive'24, yes. So with the Intel platform releasing towards the end of this year, we expect it to ramp in '23, and we expect a unit crossover, meaning DDR5, is a predominant unit shipping in first half of '24.
Sidney Ho
analystShould we assume the ASP for DDR5 is going to be higher than the DDR4 sort of maybe revenue crossover will be earlier?
Desmond Lynch
executiveThat's fair. With the new generation of DDR5, we do have higher ASPs, so the revenue crossover could happen in advance of the unit crossover from...
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. I do want to touch on the supply constraints you just mentioned there. So that reminds me, I should ask a question there. You continue to face pretty fast capacity. Can you give us an update on the supply chain situation? Is there a way to think about how much you are impacted by these constraints, whether that's from volume or from margins?
Desmond Lynch
executiveLike many others within the semiconductor industry, we have faced a supply challenged environment for the last 2-plus years. Our visibility is improving into supply, but I would say it's still limited at the 90-day level from there. I think as a company, we've done a fantastic job of managing the supply chain as I talked about quarterly record revenue from there. But we still remain in an environment where our demand is greater than our supply from there. So we continue to work with our customers and suppliers on a sort of go-forward basis. But even though with small incremental improvements in the visibility, we still remain in a tight supply environment.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Sorry for going back and forth. But I'm going back to DDR5. Because in addition to the chipset, the DDR5 chipset, you recently talked about the opportunity of companion chips, right? So there are -- I think they launched 2 products. But can you help us just size the incremental opportunity relative to these -- to your base?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes. The transition to DDR5 offered an adjacent opportunity for us on the chip side is the companion chip for on the memory module as opposed to the motherboard. From a size perspective, this offers maybe $400 million TAM expansion to us by 2025. So a significant opportunity for us. Earlier this quarter, we were delighted to announce the temperature sensor in SBD hub, which launched within qualifications with the customers just now, and we remain excited about the future opportunities that this offers to us.
Sidney Ho
analystSo the -- just to be clear, the 2 products that you announced today is not covering all the $400 million. There's probably more chips coming in the future, is that what you're talking about?
Desmond Lynch
executiveFrom a companion chip perspective, there was really 3 chips. One was the temperature center in SBD hub, which we released. The last chip is the power management chip. We're in development with that just now, and we anticipate 2023 data will be from there.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Perfect. So what are the customer feedback so far on those companion chips? How should we think about the "attach rate" the chipset business? And what is the competitiveness for companion chips?
Desmond Lynch
executiveGreat question. The feedback from customers has been positive thus far within the qualification phase just now from there. From an attach rate, these are independent chips. So it's not a 1:1 attach rate with our RCD solution. But if you look at the module, especially on the temperature sensor, there's 2 chips there in 1 FBD hub. These are independent chips. And ultimately, we would like to have a 1 sort of product sale for the customers from there. But this is something we'll continue updating and watching sort of going forward. We're just in the qualification phase, as I mentioned just now. And I think from a competitive landscape with the second part of your question, we'll see our traditional competitors such as Montage, Renaissance, and especially on the power management chip, you will see more competitors out there, [ PI ], PS and the variety of other customers.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Got it. Well, another area within products that seems to be quite exciting, and I think you mentioned that on last year with the CXL standard targeting data centers. Can you give us an overview of this CXL technology and maybe perhaps the timing of the ramp? And how -- what do you think the incremental revenue opportunity for you in that area could be?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes. We are very excited with the CXL opportunity, Sidney. This is the new memory interface technology, really to address the data-intensive workloads of high-performance compute, AI and ML. It's really the interface standards, which will allow connections between different ICs and solutions within the data center. Our primary play just now in the next 12 to 18 months will be selling IP into this market. And this is really our CXL controller and set the solution from there. Last year, we were delighted to announce our product play into this market, which is really targeting having solutions available in time for CXL 2.0, which will be late 2023, start of 2024. The market is developing with many different sort of solutions from expansion to pulling devices to retimers to switches, and we've seen very large estimates out there on market size and opportunity. And we're very excited about this. This is an ecosystem that we know well. we've invested early into this, and we are excited about the growth opportunities going forward.
Sidney Ho
analystDo you have all the pieces to address all the opportunities of CXL? Do you think you still have to do some M&A to get there?
Desmond Lynch
executiveWe're very focused and the parts that we're focused on just now, I think we have the team in place. Just last quarter, we made an aqua hire of a Hardent acquisition, which brought some more engineering resources in-house, which really solidifies our design time frame that I mentioned late 2023, 2024. If we were to expand into other areas, then that's something else that we would need to look at from there.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Last question on products, on margins. You have really good gross margins for your product business, 60%, 65% range, sometimes higher than that. As you look out to the next few years, looking at the DDR5 being a high part of the mix, you look at companion chips, you look at CXL, how should we think about this trajectory?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes, we've consistently talked about a 60% to 65% gross margin, which is very healthy for our chip business. With the addition of the new products, which we're very excited about, I would encourage you to remain within the 60% to 65% blended gross margin. Overall, as a company, we've done a very nice job of managing ASPs and cost reducing our parts to remain within that 60% to 65% range. And if you look at our gross margin performance in the first half of this year, our gross margins were around 62%, which was really at the midpoint of the sort of range there. But with the addition of the new chips, I would continue modeling at the 60% to 65% range for just now.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Fair point. Maybe let's switch over to silicon IP, which is, I think, it's about 20% of total revenue. That's a business that you've been talking about an annual run rate, 120 to 130 versus -- up 20%, 30% from a year ago. What is the long-term profile opportunity in this business without additional M&A? And I noted that you started talking about some of these opportunities in adjacent markets as well, whether it's edge, government, I think you talked about automotive, so I just want to get a sense of how fast this can grow.
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes. We've been delighted with the growth in our silicon IP business. It was nice to announce in the last earnings call, getting that to $120 million to $130 million -- $100 million, up 20% to 30% rate year-over-year. So we're getting the business to a nice scale here. We continue to challenge the business to really grow faster than market and continue to gain market share. If you look, there's various estimates on the growth rates associated with IP. It really depends on sort of what products you have available in end markets. I think given our sort of product portfolio that we have just now, I would assume in the long term, a sort of 10% to 15% growth rate would be applicable for this business from there. We've been delighted with our growth into adjacent markets. The focus of the business is really being data center. I think I mentioned up front, 75% of our revenue in this area came from data center and edge. We've been able to grow into automotive and defense. Even though these are small components today, we can see continuing to grow in the longer term.
Sidney Ho
analystAnd just to be clear, you said is kind of -- you expect it to grow 10% to 15%. What is the market rate that you are thinking?
Desmond Lynch
executiveI think it's slightly below that. It's certainly around the sort of 10% and slightly above in the long term. So again, we are asking the business to continue to grow faster than market and continue to grow and gain market share. I think we've done a nice job on the growth rate and building scale in this business.
Sidney Ho
analystGot it. Now should we think of this revenue stream being pretty fixed? Or is it varied by production level of your customers, let's say, there is a recession coming, which people are thinking next year, semiconductor production volume goes down. How should we think about that impacting your silicon IP?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes, it's a great question, Sidney. We have a diverse set of customers under our silicon IP business, which range from well-known semiconductor companies to small and medium start-ups. Again, just to reset, the IP here that we sell is integrated into larger ASIC or SoC type of solutions, which will ramp in a couple of years from now. The portfolio is really based around the data center sort of solutions, and we do see the growth in other areas. The model that we have on this business is that we -- once we deliver the IP to companies, we have paid a fee upfront, and there are specific terms around reuse of IP from there. So we are not dependent upon manufacturing tape-out of the chip or even future manufacturing sort of ramps on production from there. So we have paid up front there. We continue to monitor the macroeconomic conditions and the impact that this will have on our business, but we've overall been delighted with our sort of growth in this area.
Sidney Ho
analystSo what is the risk to this $120 million to $130 million, if most of these are like paid upfront graded in chips [indiscernible].
Desmond Lynch
executiveI think it would be a significant decline in design starts. But again, we're not seeing that. We continue to see good momentum just now. And if you look at the end markets exposed to data center. People are building chips just now for the future growth opportunities ahead.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. That's fair. The other part of the business, which is a patent license, it's a big part of, I think, you talked about $210 million. So with the DRAM -- major DRAM customer licenses a big part of that $210 million, I think you mentioned $160 million earlier. They are set to expire by the end of '23, and I think there's only 3 big guys out there. What is your confidence that these customers will [indiscernible] occurred in terms of expiry?
Desmond Lynch
executiveOur patent business has really been the backbone of the company. As we mentioned, it was a $200 million to $220 million opportunity. $150 million of that comes from the top DRAM customers, which all of them expire by the end of 2024. I'll offer some comments. From a patent perspective, a patent life is 20 years. These license arrangements are typically for 5 to 7 years from there. And really, these are the patents of generational builds, meaning the technology that was used in features in DDR5 with the base of DDR4, and DDR4 use the base of DDR3, and no prizes for guessing what DDR6 will build of off from there, Sidney. The other thing is the DRAM customers are the same customers on the product side. So they see that the license dollars that they pay to us have been reinvested in product programs, which they are benefiting from. And we continue to invest in our patent portfolio. We have a robust patent portfolio with over 3,000 patents from there. With these renewals coming up, I would still remain within the range that I provided, the $200 million to $220 million for the patent licensing business.
Sidney Ho
analystYes. That's an interesting observation is that MESA seems to be fixed contracts right now until it makes its renewal. Is there an opportunity to increase this fixed fee given how big the memory market has grown in the past few years?
Desmond Lynch
executiveThat's always the aim of the team. But again, we're working with the DRAM customers, good partners from there. We've seen explosive growth on the DRAM sort of side. I would moderate sort of expectations here and remain within the sort of range for just now. Again, we renewed Micron at the end of 2020, and it was on similar economic terms.
Sidney Ho
analystSo I assume renewal, assumed fixed fee that's probably basically.
Desmond Lynch
executiveI think that's where I would be, yes.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. That's fair. Now maybe switching, a few minutes left, we can switch over to the balance sheet and the cash flow a little bit. One of the things that I always appreciate is now the free cash flow you guys are generating, I think, is about $200 million of free cash flow per year now. And the cash balance you have is $350 million, right? So can you talk about the priorities of your cash usage between capital returns, M&A and maybe other usage? Is there a minimum cash balance you guys thinking when you exceed there's got be something happen.
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes. I think our ability to generate stable and predictable cash has been a real asset for the company. As you mentioned, end of Q2, ended $352 million in cash flow. I think Q2, our free cash flow was our cash from operations was around $56 million. From a capital allocation perspective, we have a framework which has been very consistent. Organically, we will continue to fund the high-growth opportunities in front of us, whether that be CXL or on the chip side. Inorganically, we will continue to look at M&A opportunities. And we have been -- we've acquired 5 companies over the last 3 years, which has been very complementary business. And also, we do have a commitment of returning cash to our shareholders. If you look over the last sort of 5 years, we've returned probably 40% of our free cash flow back to shareholders. Last year, it was a $100 million ASR, which was 55%. So I would use that sort of framework for our capital allocation strategy going forward. From a minimum cash perspective, given that we are very fortunate on our strong cash generation, I would assume maybe 1 to 2 quarters of operating expenses would be for the minimum sort of cash balance would be for us.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Maybe a couple quick on M&A. You've done quite a number of again. You said 5 in the last year or so, I mean, the last couple of years. Looking forward, what are your criteria when looking at [indiscernible]? And are you willing to lever up if there is an opportunity?
Desmond Lynch
executiveYes. I think we've been delighted with the success in M&A, 5 acquisitions in the last 3 years, which we have been very successful and complementary to our business. With strong cash flow and firepower, we have a strong reserve to do M&A as part of our capital allocation strategy that I just outlined for you. We will be very disciplined in our approach to M&A. And the way that we look at M&A is from a strategic, operational and financial perspective. We want to make -- we've refocused the company really around the data center, so we will probably remain within there. From an M&A opportunity perspective, we continue looking at the smaller M&A acquisitions that we've done over the past couple of years. But we also see opportunities for larger carve-outs. But again, it needs to fit the criteria of operational, financial and strategic. Does that make sense to our sort of business. So we will continue being very disciplined in our approach to M&A.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Well, we got a couple of minutes left, maybe just on closing, what are some of the key messages that you want investors to take away from this presentation today? What are some of the areas you think investors may have underappreciated with regards to recent ramps?
Desmond Lynch
executiveThanks, Sidney. I think we've been delighted with the success and the progress of the company. I think investors from 20 years ago, may remember Rambus is a patent licensing business, which has been the foundation and bedrock of our company. The product story has become underappreciated. And I think today, we've talked about some of the growth and the refocus of the company around the data center in the high-growth areas, expansion offers us there. I think operationally, we've been very focused and disciplined, and we've delivered strong financial results with superior cash generation. And overall, the growth opportunities ahead of us with the new memory architectures that we talked about in the data center, it offers exciting growth opportunities going forward for that.
Sidney Ho
analystOkay. Well, I think that we're just running out of time. Thank you for spending your time with us today. Thank you, Sidney, for having us today.
Desmond Lynch
executiveTake care.
Sidney Ho
analystThanks.
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