Lineage, Inc. (LINE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 5, 2026

NASDAQ US Real Estate Industrial REITs earnings 62 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Hello everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Lineage Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now hand the conference over to Ki Bin Kim, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ki Bin Kim

executive
#2

Thank you. Welcome to the Lineage's discussion of this second quarter 2026 financial results. Joining me today are Greg Lehmkuhl, Lineage's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Robb LeMasters, Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings presentation, which includes supplemental financial information, can be found on our Investor Relations website at ir.onelineage.com. Following management's prepared remarks, we'll be happy to take your questions. Before we start, I would like to remind everybody that our time of today will include forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our filings with the SEC. These risks could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward-looking statements in the earnings release that we issued today, along with the comments on this call, are made only as of today and will not be updated as actual events unfold. In addition, reference will be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding our use of these measures and a reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures can be found in our press release and supplemental package that was issued this morning. Unless otherwise noted, reported figures are rounded and comparisons of the second quarter of 2026 are to the second quarter of 2025. Now I would like to turn the call over to Greg.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#3

Thanks, Ki Bin, and good morning, everyone. Let me walk through our agenda for this morning. First, I'll provide key highlights from the second quarter, then I'll share our latest views on cold storage industry dynamics. Following my remarks, I'll turn it over to Robb LeMasters, who will walk through the details of our segment performance, capital structure and outlook. I'll then return to share closing comments before we open up the line for your questions. Turning to our quarterly performance on Slide 4. We are pleased to report another quarter of better-than-expected results. Operational trends continue to show signs of stabilization, and this quarter marks another step forward in demonstrating our ability to execute on our plan and navigate the industry dynamics highlighted in past calls. During the second quarter, adjusted EBITDA was approximately $320 million, ahead of both our internal expectations and consensus estimates. Total AFFO was approximately $198 million or $0.76 per share, also ahead of expectations. As a reminder, the year-over-year decline in AFFO continues to be driven primarily by the expiration of prior year interest rate hedges consistent with our 2026 guidance. On a comparable basis, excluding this impact, underlying AFFO trends are showing meaningful improvement. Turning to core operations. Let's start with the solid results in our warehousing segment. We're pleased to see growth in same-store physical occupancy this quarter, increasing 90 basis points year-over-year. This is a welcome inflection point following last quarter's slight decline and the larger declines we saw throughout 2025. This reflects our ability to grow share despite competition, a function of our industry-leading offerings will discuss in a moment. The sequential occupancy trends were slightly better than normal seasonality and economic occupancy continued to track at a consistent spread to physical infancy. Same-store rent storage and blast revenue per physical talent declined 0.7% year-over-year while services revenue for thermal pallet increased 2.1%. As we've explained in the past, customer commodity and geographic mix, along with FX create some quarter-to-quarter noise in these metrics. So we tend to view them on a combined and trended basis versus a short-term proxy for pricing trends. Robb will go into more detail, but we've completed the significant majority of our 2026 customer pricing discussions and remain confident in the 1% to 2% net pricing increase we previously discussed. We remain encouraged by the strong execution of our sales team, particularly give growth environment. I'll reiterate that our full year outlook for revenue per pallet is unchanged. We still expect to be slightly down, consistent with prior guidance, reflects the trade-related and mix headwinds we've called out on previous calls, which have broadly played out as expected. Turning to volume. Same-store throughput pallets declined 1.8% year-over-year. We continued to experience pressure in Q2 on higher turning trade-related port volumes with container volumes down 14% in the quarter. While this quarter's pace of decline represents an improvement relative to the declines we experienced in Q1, I'd remind you that cost or product mix can always play a role quarter-to-quarter. So this doesn't represent a change to how we see the full year playing I'd also remind you that we adjust labor according to mix and service activity, allowing us to react quickly to optimize cost as mix changes. Overall, same-store NOI declined 2.9% year-over-year continued improvement from the steeper declines we saw throughout 2025. Compared to the prior quarter, that's a wide decline in Q1's negative 0.9%, which is mostly explained by the step-down in FX benefit roughly 250 basis points in Q1 to about 90 basis points this quarter as well as Q1's elevated international services activity that we called out last quarter. Before turning to our outlook, I want to briefly discuss the fire we had at our Big Bear facility in Los Angeles during the quarter. I want to sincerely thank our team members on the ground for their extraordinary response along with the first responders who act quickly to protect the surrounding community. Safety remains our top priority, and I'm incredibly proud of our team, other handling this very challenging situation. As part of our response, we committed over 3.3 million to local nonprofits through direct systems to support the local community during the cleanup and remediation efforts. Robb will provide more details in his remarks. Turning to our outlook. We have maintained our adjusted EBITDA midpoint while narrowing the range despite the impact of the Big Bear fire. We're also raising our full year same-store NOI guidance to a range of negative 3% to 0% and increasing our AFFO guidance to $2.80 to $3.05 per share. The underlying trajectory of our business through the first half has been incurring. Operations are performing better than expected, and the signs of stabilization we've highlighted over the past couple of quarters have continued. That said, the operating environment still includes some challenges, competitive dynamics in certain domestic markets and trade-related volume headwinds, but we're encouraged by our results in the face of these obstacles. The overall direction is positive, and we have the big blocks in place through pricing discipline, productivity initiatives and the contribution of our past investments in people, process and technology. I also want to spend a moment on something that I think it's overlooked, the strength of geographic diversification. This year and last year, our APAC, European and Canadian business have been a real source of stability. We haven't experienced the same headwinds we've done with here in the U.S., and we continue to extend our leadership position in each of these respective markets, built on the same customer service and value that has become our global hallmark. I'm excited about the trajectories in these portfolios and proud of the teams driving such solid results. As a reminder, we have 20 facilities under construction or in the process of ramping and stabilizing. We've invested $1.1 billion of capital into these projects and expect them to deliver over $134 million incremental NOI when stabilized. Non-same-store contribution in the second quarter even better than expected, given the strong continued customer demand for our high-quality modern assets, you'll also notice that our updated development pipeline disclosure that our pre-leased levels stand at 71%. Moving to Slide 5, U.S. supply and demand trends. This slide revisits the 3 primary headwinds we faced in the recent past: supply and inventory destocking and trade impacts. I'll move quickly as we've covered each of these in detail on prior calls. We still see pockets of pressure from new supply and about 15% of our U.S. markets, but broader stabilization trends are holding. We are better equipped to send off competitors as customers increasingly recognize our superior value proposition and operational execs. Looking ahead, slowing supply growth asset repurposing potential competitor assets or bankruptcies and asset obsolescence should help offset the excess capacity overhang. We're also managing supply proactively through selected facility idling. The second headwind, customer inventory destocking affected all of our North American business, levels that built up during COVID have since reset closer to historical norms. Finally, our third headwind is import export volumes pulling back on the tariff uncertainty. International container volumes, which are about 15% of our warehouse throughput stay pressured in Q2, and we remain cautious given the ongoing political concerns. Notably, internal international volume is highly margin accretive given the strong services attachment and network operating lever, we expect to begin lapping 2025 steep volume declines in late Q3 into Q4, easing the headwind as the year closes. Longer term, we expect U.S. agricultural trade to again become a tailed. Beyond tariff resolution, there are several upside factors not netted in our guidance. Normalizing food inflation easing political uncertainty, new product categories at lower interest rates, any of which could meaningfully move the needle over time. So taken together, supply is stabilizing, tests behind us, and trade is a headwind that we expect to lap by year-end. None of these are structural, they're cyclical, and each is now moving in our direction. It's the same story of the past few decades of cold storage food demand doesn't go away, and we are the critical infrastructure that enables it. We like our position as we continue to turn the corner. Moving to Slide 6. In navigating some of these macro challenges, we've doubled down on driving costs out of our operating cost base, allowing us to outperform industry inflation by 750 basis points. The Lineage operating platform and our lean continuous improvement approach are a big part of why we've been able to hold adjusted EBITDA stable year-over-year through the first half of 2026, following a challenge in 2025. The team continues to impress me by finding new ways to land new business while aggressively managing our cost to drive profitability. And with that, let me turn it over to Robb LeMasters, who will give you more detail on the quarter and some comments on our revised outlook.

Robb LeMasters

executive
#4

Thanks, Greg, and good morning, everyone. Starting with Slide 7. In our Global Warehouse segment, second quarter total warehouse supply was approximately $367 million and same-store NOI declined 2.9% year-over-year, both ahead of our expectations. In Q2, same-store NOI benefited by 90 basis points from favorable FX and year-over-year as we contemplated in our previously provided outlook. Looking forward, we expect FX to be a relatively minor year-over-year factor for the balance of 2026. Within the same warehouse pool, rent, storage and blast revenue per physical pallet declined approximately 0.7% year-over-year while same-store physical occupancy improved 0.9%, reflecting strong commercial execution by our sales team. That team has built deep relationships in the food space and is now extending the reach of our sophisticated cold storage and logistics offerings into adjacent cold chain categories. As Greg mentioned last call, we secured a key confectionery account win that launched successfully in June. That ramp is off to a strong start, and we expect continued momentum from this and other candy customers, positioning confectionery as a top 10 category for us over time. Turning to services. Throughput and services revenue per throughput pallet both came in slightly ahead of our expectations for the quarter. A favorable mix helped to offset what continued to be a challenging important volume environment tied to trade-related headwinds. As we look to the back half, the comparisons do a bit easier in the second half of the third quarter and for the full Q4 as we lap last year's post liberation days downdraft. That said, we expect the mix tailwind that benefited Q2 debate. Netting those 2 dynamics together continue to expect full year throughput and service metrics be down modestly, consistent with our prior expectations for the full year. Shifting to Slide 8 to our Global Integrated Solutions segment. GIS NOI was $61 million. Excluding the impact of last year's Spain transportation disposition, the segment saw solid underlying revenue growth of 5%, driven by continued momentum in our U.S. transportation and food service businesses, while the underlying revenue growth was solid, 2 items impacted margins during the quarter. First, accelerating truckload and LTL carrier rates, which we passed through to customers but at a lag created near-term pressure. We expect margin recapture as new market rates are absorbed into customer pricing over time. The second offsetting item was a $7 million legal settlement that was not contemplated in prior guidance, stemming from an employment matter for prior years. Excluding the settlement, GIS delivered solid underlying margin of 19%. Together, these drove a lower NOI for the quarter, and we're lowering our full year GIS NOI outlook to minus 4% to minus 2% from 0% to plus 2% previously. Ultimately, the strength in the transportation and food service markets that is driving the higher carrier rates and providing this temporary profit squeeze should actually work in our favor and drive more customers to our unique value-driven offering. Customers will increasingly look to offset carrier rate pressure with a well-priced integrated storage plus transportation solution. Turning to Slide 9, adjusted EBITDA and AFFO. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $320 million, which includes the impact of the legal settlement I just mentioned. Second quarter AFFO was approximately $198 million or $0.76 per share. Better-than-expected results were driven by both stronger-than-expected same-store and non-same-store NOI growth. Administrative expenses, which exclude stock-based comp, were approximately $118 million in the quarter, modestly better than expected due to the timing of certain spending and better cost management. As a result, we're tightening our full year admin guidance to $460 million to $470 million, which puts us at the lower end of our previously guided quarterly range of $120 million to $125 million for the remaining 2 quarters of 2026. On AFFO, in addition to the adjusted EBITDA, we benefited from favorable timing of maintenance, capital expenditures and tax items, driving a result of $0.76 per share, well above both consensus and our internal expectations. We're pleased to see both our core operations NOI and adjusted EBITDA come in ahead of expectations despite a challenging operating environment. Moving to Slide 10, capital structure. We ended the quarter with net debt of approximately $7.8 billion and total liquidity of approximately $1.6 billion. We have manageable near-term maturities and ample flexibility to address them through a revolver or other available sources of capital, supported by our strong access to both the U.S. and European public bond markets. Also, we continue to make good progress on our strategic portfolio review. We're evaluating a range of options here with the goal of increasing our financial flexibility so we can capitalize on potential M&A opportunities that market dislocations may present, while maintaining a strong balance sheet to invest in future high-return opportunities alongside our customers and being able to return capital to shareholders. As we've done this work, we feel even better about the disconnect between the private and public valuations for high-quality cold storage assets. We now have firm timetables around key transactional work streams, and we're confident we'll be in a position to provide a comprehensive update by year-end. Our adjusted net debt to transaction adjusted EBITDA stands at approximately 5.3x. This metric accounts for intra-period acquisitions or dispositions and capital invested in our development pipeline that has yet to stabilize. Keep in mind that these developed projects have been significantly derisked as the majority are anchored by customers with long-term commitments. For example, our new state-of-the-art, fully automated project in Hazelton continues to ramp in line with our expectations. These new automated buildings are genuinely complex mega builds and Hazelton is now 1 of 25 fully automated facilities in our portfolio reinforcing our leadership in developing and operating highly sophisticated productivity-enhancing cold storage solutions for our customers. Maintaining our investment grade balance sheet remains a key focus for our company, and we remain committed to bringing reported leverage currently approximately 6.0x into our targeted range of 5.0x to 5.5x. Before turning to guidance, let me provide a little more detail on the Big Bear fire that Greg mentioned. As a reminder, this facility is roughly 500,000 square feet with about 85,000 pallet positions. So call it approximately 1% of our total global capacity. We moved quickly to engage our customers and we're able to address their immediate needs by shifting volume to ceramic sites. We believe the fire originated during third-party testing of the rooftop solar array, which was owned and operated by Altus. This is the only site where we have a relationship with Altus and we're pursuing all options to hold them accountable. In the meantime, we carry insurance for exactly this kind of event, and we are working with our insurance partners to cover immediate remediation costs and the financial impact while our responsibility gets fully worked out. There are really 2 areas where we expect to see an impact. First, there will be a drag on the adjusted EBITDA we had expected to deliver in Q3 and Q4. That's driven by loss revenue during the recovery period, plus incremental cost to support our customers and team members through the transition. We do expect to retain the significant majority of this business but there's a lag before inventory fully replenishes and when we're back to the level of service our customers expect from us. We've estimated that impact at approximately $15 million of adjusted EBITDA and the guidance we provided today. Over time, we expect to recover that lost profit through our business interruption insurance and that recovery will be recognized below the EBITDA line. To be clear, our current guidance does not contemplate any BI insurance benefit. As we get more clarity on both the cost and the recoveries will provide additional color next quarter. Second, we'll incur repair and remediation costs for the building structure and freezers, along with legal fees, community support costs and other onetime items. It's too early to precisely quantify all that, but we'll exclude these costs and the offsetting insurance recoveries from adjusted EBITDA, so we keep our core operating results comparable to other periods. Moving on to our outlook. We're raising our full year 2026 guidance for same-store NOI and AFFO per share with same-store NOI growth now expected at negative 3% to flat up from negative 4% to negative 1%. On the non-same-store NOI front, the only substantial change is Big Bear moving into that pool. So an increase in same-store NOI, offset by the Big Bear headwind, we still expect total warehouse NOI growth of negative 2% to positive 1%. Other minor changes include a slight reduction in GIS NOI from the legal settlement and temporary carrier pressure, offset by an improvement in the outlook of our admin guidance. Together, these puts and takes leave the midpoint of our EBITDA guidance unchanged. For full year 2026, AFFO per share is now expected to be $2.80 to $3.05, up from $2.75 to $3, reflecting better CapEx management from batching, CapEx projects and procurement savings. We're pleased with our consistency and better-than-expected results in the first half. Our underlying trajectory of improving same-store service revenue, same-store occupancy gains, and stabilizing development projects gives us a solid foundation. A few things to keep in mind on second half cadence. Quarterly and seasonal month-to-month timing is always difficult to precisely estimate but we want to give you as much visibility as we can sitting here today for modeling purposes. First, FX is a minimal factor year-over-year in both Q3 and Q4. Second, Q3 2025 is our toughest comparison of the year. Given that, we still expect Q3 2026 same-store NOI to grow sequentially, but on a year-over-year basis, that same-store growth will likely be the lowest reported level of the year, probably a bit below Q2 levels. Q4 is where it gets more interesting. We're lapping an easier import/export comparison from Q4 of last year. And by that point, we'll be ramping new business wins and the continued progress we are making on our key productivity initiatives. Taken together, we think that gets us close to flat year-over-year fourth quarter same-store NOI growth. On administrative expenses, which exclude stock-based compensation, we are expecting those should run towards the lower end of our previously guided quarterly range of $120 million to $125 million per quarter. On the non-same-store front, our outlook reflects continued strong contributions from 2025 acquisitions and the ramp up new developments. Netting out Big Bear impact, we expect a non-same-store NOI run rate of approximately $20 million per quarter in both Q3 and Q4. A stabilizing supply and demand environment and a sharper focus on revenue growth coupled with expense management and balance sheet optimization, provide a solid foundation for 2026 and positions us well for long-term growth. I'll now turn it back over to Greg to wrap up our prepared remarks.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#5

Thanks, Robb. Temperature-controlled warehousing is essential infrastructure, the connected tissue making food producers, processors, distributors and retailers. Cold storage exists to bridge the distance and time between where and when food has grown and when and where it's consumed. Data science algorithms AI don't change this. The Turkey on your Thanksgiving table this year was almost certainly frozen and stored for months in advance. People will always need to eat and food will always need to be stored along the way. And while we're not fully insulated from every permutation that can reshape our customers' behavior, we believe the core demand for what we do is structurally drilled and will grow over time. Before I wrap up, I want to spend a moment on LinOS. In the quarter, our LinOS sites expanded to 14 total conventional sites. We saw significant progress in our productivity across locations giving us increased confidence in this investment and in achieving the goal of $110 million in EBITDA impact. In summary, this quarter's results reinforce the trajectory we've built over the past several quarters. Operations are performing better than expected, and our KPIs continue to trend positively. We're encouraged by the continued signs of stabilization in our core business and believe we're well positioned to build on this momentum in the coming quarters. Before we move to your questions, I want to sincerely thank our global team members for their continued dedication to our customers. Operator, let's open it up for questions.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from [indiscernible] with Goldman Sachs.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#7

Could you go through your take on occupancy. So that's average warehouse occupancy of 80% from 79.9% in 1Q, why that was up sequentially. I realize it's only 10 basis points, but that's compared to 2Q normally being a seasonal step down. Do you think it was a function of something you did or customer actions or policies and whether it could potentially be related to the [indiscernible] outbreak?

Robb LeMasters

executive
#8

Yes. I mean just to clarify, so year-over-year, exactly right. Occupancy was up year-over-year on a same-store basis, pretty great outcome there. First-time outcome for us since going public. So that's a great turn looking year-over-year. Sequentially, we actually saw about what we thought actually a little bit better. So we were down sequentially. And in terms of occupied pallets about 1%. We revealed the USDA data is not perfect. Generally, it looks to be down about 3% sequentially. So we would know that that's slightly better than what we thought on occupancy and an occupied pallet basis.

Operator

operator
#9

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

Maybe just following up on the occupancy. It's nice to certainly see things stabilizing. As you kind of look out over the next couple of years, maybe outside of taking market share, how do you sort of see both the physical and economic occupancy kind of trending for the portfolio? And what do you think is a normalized level for the lineage portfolio?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#11

Steve, thanks for your question. So on occupancy, we continue to see stability basically. The -- we broadly believe food inventory levels are healthy and relatively balanced. That said, we have heard several customers say, since the last earnings call. that they're rebuilding inventories because they overcorrected during destocking period that we've been discussing. I'm not saying that's a widespread trend, but I do believe it's another indication that inventories have at least stabilized. So I mean, I think we're back into a normal period, and we would expect outside of market share gains, consistent inventories that would reflect all seasonality going forward.

Operator

operator
#12

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets.

Michael Carroll

analyst
#13

Greg, I wanted to follow up on your LinOS comments that you made at the end of prepared remarks. I know the company continues to expand this pilot program or the pilot program this year. Should we expect it to be more rolled out broadly in 2027? And when will that start to impact numbers? I mean Robb in his prepared remarks, I believe, said that there are some productivity improvements expected in 4Q '26. Is that driven by LinOS? Or is that driven by other tech-type investments the company has made?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#14

Yes. Thanks for your question, Michael. So as you know, we've been successfully running LinOS in our automated buildings for some time, and we're now in the process of rolling out, as you mentioned, across our conventional warehouse network. We've mentioned in the prepared remarks the Hazelton automated mega build. I mean, this facility is delivering best-in-class service in an extremely competitive cost entirely because of our long-term investment in LinOS in data science and automation. The remaining 2 Tyson facilities that we're building right now will use the same tech and deliver similar performance. I will just throw out there that the Hazelton building is a site to see if anyone wants to see it live, we have an amazing team there that gives a great tour if you're interested in seeing it just get with Kevin or Alex and we'd be happy to host. But let me spend a couple of minutes updating you on the LinOS conventional rollout. I'll start just by saying that cold storage warehouses are uniform. Every facility has its own physical footprint and product characteristics, racking maybe 2 pallets deep in 1 building and 4 pallets deep at another. Freezer temperatures are different. Obviously, cooler temperatures are different than freezers. Product categories have very unique customer requirements. We don't handle seafood the same way we handle strawberries, for example, the docs and the yards are configured differently. And so these variations are and complexity are core to our business and no doubt making building technology more challenging. But in each quarter as we roll out LinOS, we encounter new requirements and learn more. We knew from the beginning that this was a major undertaking for our company. And we're clear that the progress would probably not be perfectly linear last quarter on this call, we discussed that we were discovering new requirements in some of our larger buildings, while the smaller facility rollouts were going very smoothly. In Q2, the team made very significant strides in the larger buildings, and I'm proud to say that we're hitting our internal savings targets across all 14 LinOS buildings and still on track to deliver 20 conventional buildings by year-end. I mean we've been building the digital foundation to make the possible for over a decade. We -- as you all know, we own this platform end-to-end, which we think is really important. And the fact that, frankly, this is very complex and difficult and that is performing as designed in 14 buildings already gives us confidence that this technology will just deepen our competitive mode of time. On the conventional side of the business, just like it's already done on the audited side of the business with evidence like why we won Tyson. So -- and lastly, it takes real scale and sophistication to make this kind of investment, something that very few in our industry happen and it's one of the reasons why we feel so well positioned to continue to be the industry. So as far as the impact this year, yes, we'll see some impact in the fourth quarter. It's not going to be -- it's not going to move the needle this year, and we'll see increasing impact in '27 and '28, and we'll share those numbers as we move forward.

Operator

operator
#15

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lewis with Truth Securities.

Michael Lewis

analyst
#16

Early on in the call, you mentioned some headwinds the industry has faced in recent years that are now abating, obviously, elevated supply, destocking, et cetera. I was wondering if you had an update on the impact of the GLP-1 since the usage there is still going up. I know it might be hard to parse, but any thoughts on the impact of those drugs on the food industry and on your business?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#17

Yes, great question. We hear a lot of noise around GLPs. And actually, since our last call, we've dug into the new Cornell research as well as several other indeed studies, and I think the data is getting better. And so what we've learned is even under the most aggressive adoption scenarios, GLP-1 penetration lands in the mid- to high teens as a share of the adult population. Critically, that the steepest calorie reductions are concentrated in snacks and packaged foods, not fresh and frozen. And so when we apply the individual commodity impacts in the study to our actual commodity mix, even the most bearish studies suggest that the impact of our business is in the very low single digits and the most current research voice is something less than 1%. And so lastly, GLP-1s were designed to target obesity and diabetes, which is the fourth largest killer in the United States. And one of these studies factor in the potential impact of people living longer on total food consumption. So long story short, we're going to continue all of this data extremely closely. But based on the most temporary research, we don't believe the GLP-1 drug will have a material impact on our business.

Operator

operator
#18

Your next question comes from the line of Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Todd Thomas

analyst
#19

I appreciate the commentary around new supply growth. I wanted to ask about supply. Last quarter, you commented that you thought you were past the peak impact from new supply and you and your peers have been idling warehouses, Greg, I think you mentioned functional obsolescence and you've talked also about customers sort of transitioning back to the Lineage platform assuming a relatively steady demand environment, how are you thinking about the industry's return to a tighter supply/demand balance and what that time line might look like?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#20

Yes. Great question. And what we've been discussing openly for several quarters now, our view is that the cold storage industry right now is going through a real rationalization, and we think the outcome is going to be a story of winners and losers and the larger, more sophisticated providers like the need will be the winners. As the largest company in our industry by a significant margin, we have advantages that are very hard to replicate. The scale of our network allows us to move customer inventory across the system in ways a regional or subscale operators simply cannot. Our tech platform, I just talked about LinOS,our procurement capabilities, our customer relationships, the ability to deploy capital into sophisticated purpose-built automated warehouses like Hazelton for Tyson are all just compounding advantages that widen the gap between us and the rest of the field. And what we're seeing in the market is consistent with what you'd expect at this point in the cycle. Some operators overexpanded, lack the capital structure to absorb the challenges that we've been facing and don't have the platform to deliver against both diverse and extremely stringent customer requirements and are under a lot of pressure. And so we wouldn't be surprised at all, and we're certainly hearing on the street, if you will, there'll be a couple of competitor exits in the coming quarters, and we think this is just a natural way the supply gets rationalized in any real estate cycle and will ultimately benefit the operators who have the staying power of the capital and the platform to absorb the volume and in some cases, the assets. On the idling front, we -- I think you know we idled 10 facilities last year. We've idled 5 so far this year, taking out almost 2.5 million square feet of capacity or about 1% of the U.S. -- our U.S. capacity. We're evaluating a handful more this year. But because our occupancy level levels are strong and our new business pipeline is so strong. I wouldn't expect that pace to continue. We're happy with where we sit right now. And also, I think -- it's exciting to point out that a couple of the buildings that we've idled, we believe that we'll be able to turn those back on for specific customer activities. So I think the industry is shaking out, and we're in a great position to capitalize.

Operator

operator
#21

Your next question comes from the line of Omotayo Okusanya with Deutsche Bank.

Omotayo Okusanya

analyst
#22

I wanted to talk about GIS for a second. Some of the kind of like weaker port activity that you kind of noted impacting the business. Just kind of curious how you're thinking about that unfolding back half of '26 into '27 just given some of this kind of incremental information around taxes, tariffs from the Trump administration. And second of all, if you still feel like there's still opportunities to kind of lower labor costs in general within that business so that you can still kind of manage your margins.

Robb LeMasters

executive
#23

Yes. Thanks for the question. Yes. So GIS is a tale of a couple positives, negatives at the year sort of unfolded for us we clearly highlighted that the settlement was not contemplated in our guidance, so that kind of came in the quarter. So when you back that out, we actually had a pretty good quarter, right? It was actually in line to slightly better, excluding that. what we're really dealing with there is we have had some benefits overall in the business as it relates to fuel. That's generally a pass-through, but that's come through slightly better than we thought. What's really hit us, as you mentioned, was on the drayage side, and we contemplated the container volume in our warehouse business. That was contemplated. I would say that's about in line, maybe a touch harder than we've thought in that business. And then we have the carrier rate situation, which is really just a tightening of the economy ultimately drives up the rates and what's going on with supply and demand on the trucker side that generally leveled out, it can take a quarter or 2. So as we made a comment, we're lowering our guidance generally from the $7 million settlement and a little bit of softness related to that carrier issue. So I think that kind of covers all the different puts and takes as we roll forward, given your comments there, we still are positive about what's going to happen with the drayage long term and with import exports on our warehouse business. But we really haven't contemplated a pickup as it relates to the second half.

Operator

operator
#24

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Mueller with JPMorgan.

Michael Mueller

analyst
#25

Greg, on your comments about confectionery becoming a top 10 category. Talk a little bit about like where are you winning this business from where they currently doing for storage and logistics?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#26

Yes. Great question, Michael. So for the customer that we launched this building for the product was flowing through the traditional food service segment or channel, it was not going through third-party cold storage, and they felt they could get better service and better cost through working with us, and we believe that's a trend that will continue with this customer and others. And so it is -- it does have specific requirements, specific temperature requirements and pulling it out of just the normal food service channel made sense to them. And we believe of both or others. And so we are really excited about the next several years in growing this segment of our business, and it's a great example of how some of the excess supply get absorbed.

Operator

operator
#27

Your next question comes from the line of Vikram Malhotra with Mizuho.

Vikram Malhotra

analyst
#28

I guess just I wanted to dig into the cost more in the warehouse segment. Just if you can unpack a little bit more kind of on labor, on power, et cetera. What's your ability to control costs from here, what's the impact positive negative from oil perhaps? And then we just think about the occupancy build, do you mind giving us a little bit of color on how that should influence the margin.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#29

I'll take the first one. You want to take the second?

Robb LeMasters

executive
#30

Sure.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#31

Okay. So I mean, we have a culture of being continuous improvement at Lineage, and we're making productivity, energy gains every quarter. Our technology platform is a huge supporter of that. LinOS continues to ramp up, but we have a lot of other initiatives and technologies rolling out side by side with LinOS like our Easy Metrics platform, which is a labor planning tool, and we have that just this year, we went from very few to 100 buildings. So we feel great about our ability to manage labor over time. And we think we have many years of runway to attack that cost and that is obviously our largest controllable cost.

Robb LeMasters

executive
#32

Yes. And just in terms of guidance, in terms of thinking about the margin as well as occupancy and a couple of the factors that we generally go through with you guys. Yes, as we contemplated the guidance, there's a couple of different aspects there. There's the volumetric side the revenue side, the revenue per pallet side, if you will, and then margins. As we're looking through those different components and as the year has unfolded, on the volume side, really, that has to do with keeping your eye on occupancy as well as throughput pallets, right? Those are our 2 different businesses, the storage business for occupancy. And then as you think about throughput, that really drives what's going on in the services side. When you blend both up, right, seeing good stuff on the occupancy front and still seeing headwinds on the throughput. So generally slightly better than where we came in the year as it related to the total volumetric side, but still probably flat to a little bit down when you blend up those 2 business lines in the volumetric side. On price, just to review that, on the storage business, again, we look at those kind of together. We have the RSP for physical pallets and then we have services revenue per throughput pallet. Every quarter, there's both a price element of how we put it out to the street. Greg talked about how we're getting that book businesses at a 1% to 2%, but then different quarter-to-quarter mix or commodities or different customers can really move that around. And so we've been consistent all year, and we still see that ultimately blending to a slightly down rate for the full year. Again, that's RSP side as well as services revenue per throughput side. So that will be a slight negative. And when you take those 2, right, that kind of blends to a same-store revenue flat to down a little bit. And Greg talked about that you try to offset that with the cost savings initiatives, but you're fighting inflation, right? And so any business that has a challenged top line like that, which we're coming through, really hard to mitigate all the labor inflation you have, and Greg and the team are doing a great job. But the third component then becomes around margins. We generally are baking in a slight decline in margins because that saw that this quarter had a little bit of margin pressure, last quarter we did well. So that's really our third component. But to keep margins at almost flat in this environment is a stellar outcome. So those are the 3, hopefully, that helps you kind of parse through how we're thinking about the minus 3% to 0% overall guidance.

Operator

operator
#33

Our next question comes from the line of Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Sitting in for Blaine, who's out today. But I appreciated your color on the back half kind of some of the comps for same-store NOI and how to think about the model. Is there anything as we look ahead to '27 that sticks out is particularly easy or challenging comps. I know you also mentioned this year you had a drag from some refinancing. But just kind of like big picture, line items, where do you think it gets particularly easy next year? And where may not be so easy based on how you did this year?

Robb LeMasters

executive
#35

Yes. No. I mean just moving through the P&L as you think about the different components, generally, a little bit early to go into 2027. But we're setting up good as we exit the year right? We said we're scratching out a flat outcome. I think Greg has really helped the team battle through those 3 headwinds, but there's a couple that are still kind of rolling over as we go to next year, import export being on top of my mind, just given geopolitical attention. So we'll see how that same-store NOI sort of builds as we turn the corner on the non-same-store NOI, I think there's good evidence that we're really building our greenfields and expansions, and that should build admin. We've talked about that we've really gotten ahead of that. That's nice, but we'll be fighting inflation again next year. So we've taken out the costs and we want to continue to invest in the business, but I think you'll have good outcome there. So generally, that's our view. A little bit too early to say. It's still really attacking the problems at hand so we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. We've had a good first half, but need to get through the second half.

Operator

operator
#36

Your next question comes from the line of Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley.

Ronald Kamdem

analyst
#37

Just wanted to follow up on some of the other uses this cycle. I mean you talked about confectionery, I think we talked about sort of pharmaceutical and NAREIT as well. And again, just a little bit more color if we could get some more hard numbers of what you think this revenue opportunity could be? Is that business price like the rest of the business is where are the puts and takes as it does seem like this is different versus previous cycles?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#38

Sure. Thanks, Ronald. Yes, Confectionery does price similarly to the rest of the business. We love the business. We like margins, and we think this could be multiple hundreds of millions of revenue over time. So that's the way we're looking at it. I think on the other uses or absorption of supply. There has been a couple of deals already where we've idled buildings, where we've been able to make deals to either sell or working on leases for noncompetitive uses. And so one was with the trucking company, was with a producer that would clearly not -- would ensure that those -- that capacity exits the third-party public warehousing space. And so that's just the overall [indiscernible].

Operator

operator
#39

Your next question comes from the line of Craig Mailman with Citigroup.

Craig Mailman

analyst
#40

Maybe a two-parter here. I guess just first on conversations you're having with tenants, I mean, we're starting to see some in your tenant based kind of cut prices as the last resort to spur volumes and so they're already getting pressured on margin there. Just kind of curious how that bodes for kind of your ability to push through rent increases as we go forward here, and what you're discussing with tenants so far. And then just second on the guidance. My understanding was always the second half was ramp versus the first half on earnings. But if you look at the run rate, you guys are deselling in the back half of the year. And I understand Big Bear to $15 million EBITDA headwind, but you also have a $7 million legal settlement. And so it's -- that $0.05, $0.06 drag from Big Bear -- I'm just trying to think about why guidance shouldn't trend towards the high end of the range versus the new midpoint.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#41

So I'll take the first one first, and then I'll turn it over to Robb to answer the second one. So on rice, as the new supply hit us over the last couple of years, we had to contend with price challenges. We reported already and discussed that this year, we expect to get net price increases of 1% to 2%. And I think we've worked through the vast majority of that new supply getting delivered. And so I would expect similar results next year where we would have net positive price.

Robb LeMasters

executive
#42

Yes. And then talking about the math around your question as to how the year unfolds, right, to be clear, what we've commented on is the year-over-year growth. So we do see the second half of the core business on the warehousing side being up dollars, right? But as you think about the year-over-year, you're quoting some year-over-year growth rates. And I think the simple way to think about it is the first and the second quarter, same-store NOI blends to about a minus 2%, right? The first quarter was about 1 minus 1, and we just reported a minus 3. So you blend those two together and that's a minus 2. And you know that our new guidance is minus 3 to 0. So midpoint there is minus 1.5. So you can see really you line up quite nicely. So nothing really to deal with. And then, of course, I'm sure you're adjusting for FX. That has been a tailwind in the first part of the year, and that goes away as we think about the second half. So we're pretty proud of the team and nothing to call out. We are not seeing a deceleration at all given your question.

Operator

operator
#43

Your next question comes from the line of Ami Probandt with UBS.

Ami Probandt

analyst
#44

I'm here with Michael Goldsmith. A couple of questions on the new development disclosure. First off, how fast do you expect to ramp occupancy at the development facilities, which were delivered in the last year. Should we expect a similar path to those delivered 2 or 3 years ago? And then for facilities, what is the -- what's leading to the spread between the achieved economic occupancy and NOI?

Robb LeMasters

executive
#45

So on the development pipeline, yes, we're seeing a very similar ramp across the portfolio, really good outcome as you study that page, you'll see that the class that really you watch right before it becomes part of our base. the IRR that we're expecting actually notched a little bit up, right? So sequentially from Q1 to Q2 that's what I keep my eye on, and you can see that, that 25-month to 36-month class, in Q1, we were expecting about a 12% return. Now we're expecting at 13%. These are smaller numbers, but generally just points to really the aging of our portfolio right before it becomes part of our base, really is looking nice. So nothing to call out in terms of the years, it's a multiyear ramp for projects. And then I think your question -- your second question had to do with economic versus physical occupancy, I believe, but you can clarify if I didn't get it right. We're generally seeing the same trends in the second quarter. We've talked about that generally being a spread of about 400 to 600 basis points, and we came in right in that range. Very consistent with what we saw in Q1. So we've addressed that in the last couple of earnings calls that we really worked with our customer, and we do on a year-to-year basis, and we generally feel like people have a need for that extra capacity that they sign up for. That is what's caused the delta between economic and physical. And that range really feels like we're in the right zone right now with our customers. They need that for seasonal purposes or other means. And so we really feel like we're in a good shape there. I don't think you'll have any surprises up or down from the range that we've been consistently at the past couple of quarters.

Operator

operator
#46

Your next question comes from the line of Vince Tibone with Green Street.

Vince Tibone

analyst
#47

Can you provide an update on the strategic review process. At NAREIT, I think you talked about selling -- potentially looking to sell up to $1 billion. Just want to see if that's still the case and how we should think about kind of the most likely timing of any transaction? Is it possible something is agreed upon and announced for year-end? Or is this more of a '27 event now?

Robb LeMasters

executive
#48

Yes. Thanks for the question. Yes. Again, we really took it on ourselves to look at portfolio and see the disconnect that we're seeing in the public versus private markets. and take advantage of that, frankly, to solve where we want to get to from a leverage standpoint to have more optionality in the future. As you know, our reported leverage is 6x right now, and we made a commitment to our rating agencies and to all of U.S. investors that we want to have flexibility to get into the range of the 5 to 5.5x, which is what we committed to at the IPO. If you do the math as to how you get there, you're exactly right. You need to divest a little over $1 billion of proceeds at the multiples that we've outlined in the past in order to get that done. And so we still see a really good path. What I've done over time is look at the various transactions that we could do. We've narrowed it down. We've hired advisers or consultants to kind of try to understand what the value could be. And I think our comments today just say we really have soft circled a couple of interesting transactions that would get us there. We're encouraged by that. And we expect, to your question, that we'll have a meaningful update on the lion's share of those transactions within this calendar year. Now the cash proceeds could spill over into the early part of next year. But I know everybody is watching kind of getting there by year-end. And so we're feeling increasingly confident that we can make substantial progress this year. And give you an update by our year-end announcement.

Operator

operator
#49

Your next question comes from the line of Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler.

Alexander Goldfarb

analyst
#50

Just following on Vince's question. I realize, Robb, you're not giving '27, but overall, it sounds like the macro environment is the macro environment, it sounds like customers are settling out, maybe a little plus, maybe a little bit minus but settling out. But if we think about you guys selling $1 billion of assets and deleveraging, it sounds like net-net, '27 is a lower number than '26. I realize you're not giving guidance, but just conceptually from what you guys have talked about the macro and then what you're doing strategically that's mentally sort of how the math seems to pencil. And I just want to make sure if that's correct or if you do anticipate '27 would be positive versus '26 on an FFO basis.

Robb LeMasters

executive
#51

Yes. No. So again, we're not guiding to AFFO for 2027, but you've laid out a couple of pieces there. I think we generally have outlined that if we find the right transaction at the right pricing, we don't find this to be a super dilutive event at the AFFO. It's hard when for a period of time, you sell an asset and then you put the cash on the balance sheet and you don't earn the same. That's just a fact of deal map. But we don't think that, that AFFO dilution from that event alone will be substantial to be concerned about. And so then you just have the business, and as I commented earlier, it will be too difficult to kind of talk about the business outside of outside of that transaction.

Operator

operator
#52

Your next question comes from the line of Viktor Fediv with Scotiabank.

Viktor Fediv

analyst
#53

On Big Bear fire, you mentioned that you were able to relocate some of your customers to nearby facilities. So to what extent does that create tailwind for your same-store portfolio through higher occupancy and throughput and is the estimated $15 million impact net of those benefits? And also compared to the kinemic incident, are there any meaningful differences in the insurance structure, expected timing or potential scope of recoveries that could result in different financial outcome this time around?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#54

Thanks for your question. So I'll just start to talk just a couple of high-level comments on the fire, and then I'll turn it over to Robb on the financials. But I, again, just want to thank our team. This is a very, very, very challenging situation and our response on the ground it was nothing short of extraordinary from literally day 1 standing side by side with the firefighters and helping them solve how to put out this fire was simply remarkable. As Robb talked about, the facility is a relatively small portion of our overall network, just about 1%. And we've been working with customers literally from the first day to divert product across the network to provide solutions for them. It's also important to recognize another kind of network effect or benefit scale is that we have almost 30 other facilities in the broader Southern California region, and those teams have jumped in and helped our customers in a heroic way. And so right now, we are focused on the cleanup entirely supporting the community. We've given over $3.3 million to the local residents through charities and directly and feel great about our remediation and community support efforts. As far as the Kennewick piece and comparing it to that, yes, our insurance coverage is adequate to handle this, and we wouldn't expect the cash flows to be much different than that played out.

Operator

operator
#55

Your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Thillman with Baird.

Nicholas Thillman

analyst
#56

Maybe I wanted to touch on some comments you made about just operators looking to exit and capacity potentially being flushed from the North American market. But you also commented on potential institutional interest just within the cold fur infrastructure and the public-private disconnect valuation. Just curious how you think it could play out from a pricing impact if you're starting to see some of the private players get more involved and maybe get some reset basis on some of these assets? Is that put downward pressure on pricing for the portfolio overall? I guess how are you viewing -- being aggressive on the acquisition front versus just letting capacity get flushed out of the system?

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#57

Yes. I mean I think we're in the best position to acquire the assets that we want as some of these companies take different strategic directions because we have the most synergies because we have the densest network and we can have the technology and capability and add an structure to optimize these assets. As far as new private institutional investors coming in I think it's clear that it's very difficult for these small companies to compete with the more established providers. And so I don't think there's a lot of motivation for them to come and buy a 5-asset company that's struggling because them buying them doesn't change their trajectory because they're not in a different competitive position. So we don't see that as a major threat. And we think, if anything, give this shakeout could firm up price over time and allow us to get closer over time to being able to recover inflationary levels as it plays out.

Operator

operator
#58

That is all the time we have today for questions. Apologies to those whose questions we did not get to. I will now turn the call back over to Ki Bin Kim for closing remarks.

Ki Bin Kim

executive
#59

Thank you, everyone, for joining our second quarter earnings call. Have a good week.

W. Lehmkuhl

executive
#60

Thanks, everybody. Appreciate it.

Operator

operator
#61

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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